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The Humble Bundle Abandons Indie Roots With the THQ Bundle

The Humble Bundle isn't just for indie games anymore. Is this THQ package a fluke or will there be more mainstream bundles?

The Humble Bundle is treading into new territory, mainstream territory. Many will have mixed feelings about this. Many will have those feelings while purchasing a slew of THQ games for a few dollars. 

Some fear that the mainstream companies will look at the amount of money THQ is generating through this and will want to partner with the Humble Bundle as well. This could mean less attention for deserving indie games or this could mean more Humble Bundles in general. 

The minimum price is now $1. Here are the games included in this bundle: Darksiders, Red Faction: Armageddon, Metro 2033, Company of Heroes, Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts, and Company of Heroes: Tales of Valor.  If you pay more than the average you also get Saints Row: The Third.  

Let me know what you think about the Humble Bundle going mainstream. 

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posted 1 year 4 months ago

 I don't think it will hurt humble. But I do think the only reason THQ did it is cause of how much they need money. Which isn't really a bad thing either. You get some pretty good games for a dollar can't argue with that too much. 

posted 1 year 4 months ago

 So, the link given by 'Drew' at the end of the video links to  a rick roll ಠ_ಠ

goo.gl/QMET

posted 1 year 4 months ago

 Haters are going to hate, but it's an awesome bundle anyhows. 

posted 1 year 4 months ago

 Honestly I don't want to see this from more producers but THQ is a decent company that is on the verge of going bankrupt, I think this might be part humble trying to help out and give this failing company a chance.

I don't have a problem with companies using this model with their games but I think the humble bundle page should really try and stick with it's name and promote the idies more.

posted 1 year 4 months ago

 cheap games 90% of the people werent going to buy, are now sold  who looses?i bought them and probably wont play them imo 

posted 1 year 4 months ago

 I think it is a great idea, as long as it doesn't hurt the indie market.

posted 1 year 4 months ago

THQ is practically a charity case anyways. You have to admit they have produced amazing games for a long time. Now they are facing bankruptcy and it's not looking good. I would hate to see THQ die off, but at least this will be a good last hurrah. Also, why argue with 5 big titles for 6$

posted 1 year 4 months ago

Logan, can you define "mainstream"? What does that even mean? Is it number of users? Is it theme or type of content? Is it genre? Is it a formula that's been rehashed a million times? Or is it just a buzz word thrown around for the sake of separating yourself from "everybody else"?

 

posted 1 year 4 months ago

Corporate vs Indie really. A massive company that makes games (using tried and true formulas) would be a mainstream company. A small company or small group of people working independently to make a game, either quirky and new or formulaic, would be indie. Indie companies are usually able to take more risks as they do not have a board of directors/ marketing directors/ etc. to please. 

posted 1 year 4 months ago

 Ah okay, thank you for replying. I find a lot of the times terms like "indie" or "mainstream" can have a lot of different meanings depending on who you ask. I mean heck, you could probably even argue that Valve is an indie developer since they are a private company and entirely self-funded, not to mention they've hired tons of people from the community who were independent developers of mods that would then go on to become stand-alone releases, etc.

That is, if you took the more literal meaning of the word "indie", meaning you're independent of-- But that's the catch, what do you have to be independent of in order to be indie? Public shareholders? 3rd-party investors? A parent company?

For an interesting stick-in-the-wheel-spokes, you could make the arguement that people who back an indie developer on Kickstarter are now 3rd-party investors. Would that render the developer no longer indie?

I don't know, I'm kind of just rambling now. But on the next episode of the The Tek it'd be interesting to hear your and Wendell's opinions on this subject, of what actually does it mean to be indie?

posted 1 year 4 months ago

Valve would not be indie to me. They have executives, a massive staff, marketing people, etc. There are a lot of people involved in the decision making process at Valve. They hold true to principles that benefit the consumer and are better to their developers than most. They are also very good about nurturing ideas that are not "mainstream" or popular.

Indie studios do not have as many chiefs or as many people involved in the decision making process. When an indie company hires 50 devs, gets a CEO, and a marketing staff... they are not really indie anymore.

The whole kickstarter thing is not really relevant because the backers have no input. The game is still being created by an indie team, they are just getting some funding to work on their idea. 

 

posted 1 year 4 months ago

 that was probably the most intelligent conversation about video games I've heard in a long time

posted 1 year 4 months ago

 I ususally consider the difference simply, are they independant from any other entity? Such as do their own publishing, or have a very loose contract that their publisher does NOT force them to choose how to make the game? Then its indie..

posted 1 year 4 months ago

 Either way Childs play and Red cross benefit. Anyone know why EFF is no longer supported through the bundle? 

posted 1 year 4 months ago

Is it only soundtracks? edit: ohhh nevermind, they just didn't send me my steam keys and I had to re order them.. oh and might I add I haven't read anything above lol I just want these cheap games, and I donated all ten bucks to charity.. I hope that's where it goes edit: aside that I buy enough indie games cause they are cheap anyways

posted 1 year 4 months ago

 Hmmm....Well....

I mean, it's a good thing for me, I get a bunch of great games for less than 6 dollars, but I can see how this would upset people (Windows only, not indie, DRM, steam only and maybe some more I overlooked), HOWEVER, I do not care as in realitiy those don't really affect or upset me. I'm getting a great deal, loads of people are trying new games and I am VERY selfish.

 

posted 1 year 4 months ago

 Just slide all the profits over to the charities and feel good about yourself, because at the end of the day, that's were it does the most good :)

posted 1 year 4 months ago

 As long as money is going to charity it is fine.

posted 1 year 4 months ago

 I dont mind if 'mainstream' companies use the humble bundle as long as the people behind the humble bundle stay at home to their roots and still give Indie games a fair share.

And even then, THQ isn't the worst of the mainstream companies out there, they have decent franchises under their belt.

posted 1 year 4 months ago

 THQ deserves the most they can get out of this. They're in some really bad financial trouble (200M in debt to wells fargo), and their CEO, Jason Rubin (co-founder of Naughty Dog, dev on crash 1-CTR) is one of the few people in power who firmly believe that power should be given to the developers to do what they want, and taken from the publishers to dictate what devs do. Interestingly enough, he's predicted a lot of the trouble the industry faces today, and with anyone like this being a CEO of any publisher, that's more than enough reason to support them. https://

Oh, and it's nice to see games on Humble Bundle that aren't 2D platformers starring a sad robot collecting fuel to power an engine made of broken dreams. Indie games are so often terrible, these are actually excellent titles.

posted 1 year 4 months ago

 I'm fine with THQ going on the humble bundle to raise some cash and get out of trouble (whilst giving people the choice to donate to charity) as long as the likes of EA and Activision dont see it as a way to add to their already huge cash piles. This will probably work in THQ's favour as they will also most likely get some DLC sales from saints 3 and possibly introduce people to Darksiders and then boost sales of Darksiders 2 if people like it.

Also I hope this goes like other humble bundles and more games get added half way through.

posted 1 year 4 months ago

Abandon isn't the right word; this isn't a zero sum situation.  Just because they have a THQ bundle or a future Bethesda Bundle (or whatever) dosen't mean they will have less humble indie bundles.  Expands might be a better word: "The Humble Bundle Expands with the THQ bundle," may have been a better, less exaggerated headline.

 
posted 1 year 4 months ago

I never give any money to the charities when I buy a bundle. Not because I'm a tight scum, but seriously, donating video games to children in hospitals? Let's face it, that money could be going to a charity more worthwhile.

I know there's the American red cross, but I feel as if I should give to a more local charity, I want to give to my country's charity, not America's. Do they seriously need more money anyway?

posted 1 year 4 months ago

 I usually go most in on the Developers and Humble Inc.

posted 1 year 4 months ago

THQ is almost bankrupt, and since they make really good quality games, i think its okay...

I want them to continue publishing, if it is someone who deserves to go bankrupt then its EA or Activision.

posted 1 year 4 months ago

 It's Humble and a Bundle, but it's not indie, nor does it claim to be indie.

I like how they're honest. (I bought it)

posted 1 year 4 months ago

 i think as long as u put most of the money to charity it will be fine going main stream, i uslay donate like 20$ each time and put 10$ to charity, 5$ to the other options 

posted 1 year 4 months ago

 I bought it too. It was a good deal. 

posted 1 year 4 months ago

 I just got the bundle today, really enjoying it :-) 

posted 1 year 4 months ago

 I'm very happy that this happened because I know THQ has been hurting as of late. So to see how much money was raised through this for Humble and THQ I thought was a win-win-win-win situation. If in the future Humble completely abandons indie then there might be a problem but I doubt they will.